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Vegetarianism in Russia
Contributed by Sergio
Guardian
in
article "Russians say 'nyet' to meat and vodka"
describes situation of vegetarianism in Russia and how it was in USSR. I lived in Soviet Union, and can tell you it was quite difficult to be vegetarian. There were no vegetarian restaurants and because all production was in hands of state there wasn't any hope that there will be vegetarian industries.
Here are few quotes:
"The Bolsheviks considered vegetarianism too close to the fastings of the Church and an imperialist trait. 'Vegetarians didn't say they were vegetarians,' said Nikolai Kalanov, director of The Vegetarian magazine and president of the Eurasian Vegetarian Society. 'In Soviet times, being vegetarian was like being a homosexual.' "
"They were suppressed for 70 years and the name of their philosophy was forbidden. Yet all they wanted was the right to be vegetarians. Now, more than a century after the first Russian vegetarian society was founded, the meat-free life is flourishing again."
At the forefront of the trend is Dzhangannat, a restaurant and 'Centre of Healthy Eating', which, not content with a ban on meat, has also forbidden alcohol and smoking. In a country where half the people smoke and cheap drink is available 24 hours a day, a restaurant aimed at the health-conscious seemed to be commercial suicide. But now there are plans to expand.
'Opponents said the restaurant business [in Moscow] is not possible without meat or vodka,' said manager Igor Byutner. 'There's a lot of curiosity among the average Russian.'
The country has a long history of being anti-meat. Before the Revolution there were vegetarian societies all over the country. They were partly influenced by the West, where such societies were in vogue at the time, but the real father of Russian vegetarianism was Leo Tolstoy, who converted in 1885. 'The more compassionate we are to all animals, the better it is for our soul,' wrote the author of War and Peace .
Approved by Sergio on November 12,2001 | 17:49:58
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Re: Vegetarianism in Russia (Score: 1) by macsforever2001 on November 13,2001 | 07:03:17 | | Good article, if a bit short. It makes sense for people in the Soviet Union (of course now Russia et al) to eat vegetarian since, if the news reports we get in the USA are true, grocery stores are mostly empty. Meat being a very inefficient use of resources for a resource starved country. I wonder how true that really is though - any comments?
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Re: Vegetarianism in Russia (Score: 1) by Sergio on November 13,2001 | 17:13:01)http://www.royalwebhosting.com | Grocery stores were empty 7 years ago. Now there are a lot of goods, but unfortunatelly few of them are vegan.
And here to be vegan is more expensive than not to be.
I live in Republic of Moldova, and with few other vegetarians I've started Moldavian Vegetarian Union (there are not any other vegetarian organizations in Moldova), and I hope that here soon will be much easier to live vegan. |
Re: Vegetarianism in Russia (Score: 0) by Anonymous Vegan on November 14,2001 | 05:24:30 | Awesome! Sergio, you have guts. :)
Good luck!
I'm still fascinated by veg*nism in Russia. From the article is seems like it's mostly a 'health' thing (and I'm distressed at the perceived link between veg*nism and religious abstinence), but that's better than there being no veg*nism at all...
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Re: Vegetarianism in Russia (Score: 1) by Sergio on November 15,2001 | 17:32:12)http://www.royalwebhosting.com | Thank you :)
You are right about health, and also many are religious. When perestroika begun - there were a lot of new religious sects, many of which were vegetarian.
I also was influenced by budhism, by later figured out for myself ethical principles. And I created FidoNet area ru.vegetarian (can be seen as newsgroup as fido7.ru.vegetarian) There I'm trying to promote there ethical and environmental view on vegetarianism, but it's not so easy ;)
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Re: Vegetarianism in Russia (Score: 1) by macsforever2001 on November 14,2001 | 07:17:40) | | And here to be vegan is more expensive than not to be.
I laughed at this because I too pay considerably more at the grocery store for food than the average American. So it's not just there that this is true :^). But I don't ever buy name brand for anything because they use too many sweeteners (like in vegetable *soup*), preservatives and other unhealthy ingredients. You would think that unsweetened, unsalted raw peanut butter would be cheaper than the name brand counterpart which is filled with junk and overprocessed, but it costs maybe 4 times more. Of course I eat almond butter instead of peanut butter anyway and that costs even more - $9 for a jar is the cheapest I've ever seen. It is a supply and demand issue unfortunately. I also try to buy organic produce and those are much more expensive than "regular" poisoned veges.
From a pure economic viewpoint, I consider my Vegan lifestyle to be cheaper because my health is vastly better now than it ever used to be back in my omnivorous days. I never get sick anymore and rarely see a doctor, whereas I used to get the flu almost every year. So my healthcare costs are much lower than the average American. I never miss work either due to sickness - this is important because I am an hourly computer contractor. No work, no pay, no excuses ;^).
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Re: Vegetarianism in Russia (Score: 1) by Sergio on November 15,2001 | 22:08:31)http://www.royalwebhosting.com | You're lucky you have peanut butter :) Here I can not find it... But here you can find practically all non vegan products :(
I tryed peanut butter only few months ago when friend who now lives in US sent me.
About organic food: After colapse of Soviet Union, here in Moldova agreculture have been nuked into Middle Ages. It have good aspects and bad ones: good is it is closer to organic farming, worse is that nobody checks how much chemicals farmers put there. Even if they now have no money for chemicals - there are many left from soviet times.
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